@eonfifty We dont know what the real numbers are on how many orders are being significantly delayed, or how much they are being delayed, Just going by the ~50% of my orders being delayed multiple weeks, and apparently customer support answers are taking over a week, I think meh has a problem, that if they dont solve, they are going to have real damage to their reputation. On most things Ive ordered I get the email from Meh that my item was delivered about a week after Ive gotten the item. Resolution Note: Only IT personnel with administrator-level access to the SendSuite Live Application server can perform this procedure. Then all the packages in and waiting to get in that facility are stuck and may sit and eventually get rerouted even back where they came from. Finally the country will be unified by universal loathing. Why has it not been delivered? I used to use Pitney Bowes postage and mailing services. Grapevine, TX is a black hole, two of my orders have totally stalled out there. I received mine after 6 weeks from ordering. 5:01am ET Ive got 5 orders still in transit that were ordered May 15. That line is created when PB notifies USPS that a package will eventually come their way for delivery. I dont know if PB is trying to shift the delay to USPS or just a fluke but definitely some issues in scanning. 24 Enjoy reading our tips and recommendations. and then it disappeared for 2 weeks before reappearing in you guessed it! Grapevine, TX Ship farther, faster and cheaper with the USPS. I dont purchase time-sensitive stuff here. I dont recall the URL, I just know I originally went to the wrong one, @ELUNO @OnionSoup https://pitneybowes.shipment.co/track/YOURTRACKINGNUMBER. @ruouttaurmind I appreciate you. Picked up and processed by agent in my town which a good 450 miles away - a flight takes 1 hour 25 min according to google maps Any bets on when this part of the tracking will be revised to be removed? I feel that this is a huge SCAM and can't believe they are still even in business. The USPS tracking just has the June 17th arrival. The only reason I can come up with if that you enjoy being argumentative. You want the one that asks for tracking number not package number. I have 3 orders with Meh in the last couple of weeks, all of which have been stuck at Pitney Blows for the last 10 days. @benjaMEHn You are correct; I do. Pitney Bowes is a shipping service, not an entity you wait on a package from, them being the shipping service will not change the time it takes to arrive. Ive never had that problem when doing that. 25 WHY ARE YOU TAKING IT TO TEXAS ??? Departed Pitney Bowes Facility For years I chased that dragon, trying to find something closer to home that compared, with no success. What could I possibly learn from your opinion about my complaint? I was just pointing out that meh doesnt only sell cheapo drones and shirts. Its a shame, especially since I specifically came to morningsave to buy it rather than going through Amazon or some other company. MAY mediocre had a community i enjoyed. @f00l @Kidsandliz Youre really never wrong, are you? It even shows its been in my city since April 28th. Coming up now on day 2 of no resolve of problems with stamp refund and tech support. Inducted into Pitney Bowes Network Or DHGate? Theres only supposed to be one DHCP server on any network, so that everyone is on the same page to talk to everyone else on the network, especially talking to the router to get to the internet. Would some please contact me? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I wouldnt be surprised if some of these low priority crates are loaded at the front end of the trailer and just ride along while higher priority packages are driven between Texas and Indiana just because its easier and quicker to not unload the entire trailer. May 18, 2020 How do I know I can trust these reviews about Pitney Bowes? received meh and morningsave orders placed after pastadrop #1. i understand covid causing delays. My favorite was watching my package go from Texas to North Carolinawhere it was supposed to be deliveredand then head back to Texas before finally being routed to Georgia and then up to NC. So these are the guys that still havent delivered my pasta to the USPS. Yall can eat 99 hamburgers at your weekly staff lunch instead. I forget I ordered , and then later it shows up. According to Meh shipping, it shipped from Carrolton, TX on May 14th and arrived at the partner facility in Little Rock, AR on May 15th. @hisgrossness Because WineDavid (Wine Country Connect and Casemates) care about delivering a perishable product. shipping. since the 26th of November, 355 miles away! I know the virus has slowed things down, but 10 days doesnt count as slow, 10 days is STOPPED. I live in DEMING, PB has had my package since july 15thfinaly,yesterday,it arrives,waitwaitshould be delivered TODAYWHAT THE FBRING MY PACKAGE BACK!!! MAY 18 2020 But the original estimated delivery dates were may 26-june 1. Carrollton, TX Do we eventually get our order, or are we SOL? Dont want to bother the nice folks at CS but wow. Thanks Pitney Bowes and USPS This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date., ATLANTA, GA 30349 [July 21 9:00am]. CURSE YOU PITNEY BOWES! UPS Scheduled 5 day shipping, arrived the 8th day. Label was created on the 11th, and inducted into Pitney Bowes Network on the 15th. Delivered to Pitney Bowes Facility Shipping Partner: PITNEY BOWES, MONROE TOWNSHIP, NJ 08831 [July 20 1:37pm], Enroute Departed, ATLANTA, GA 30349 [July 21 8:00am], Departed Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item. Curious if this package took a steam boat up the Mississippi. - horrible customer service Now I dont know what scan to believe after. WTF are they doing in freight ??? PB isnt exactly careful with the boxes, the slowness isnt out of carefulness. Then it will go on vacation in various other parts of the country. I just wanted some damn regret but this is the least thing from instant. I think for $4.99 a month we are getting a pretty good deal here and on the other Mercatalyst sites. We value your privacy. I am 100% confident the package is exactly where they say it is. Mine is still exactly the same as when I made my original complaint Been sitting at the Pitney Bowes facility since 5:30am EST on May 15th the Pitney Bowes facility is less than a mile from my house. Clark Ransom, VP of DesktopShipper discusses their integration to Pitney Bowes Pure Post (shipping APIs) and how they've found success in the partnership. UPS seems to be back to having issues too. Today the package is in NJ. Sounds very familiar. I ordered these for Fathers Day for my father and brother and it looks like Im only going to have 1 to hand out tomorrow. United States. That one day I got 5 of my 9 orders, the rest have been sitting in transit somewhere all this time. In Transit One shipment arrived 1 month AFTER its latest arrival date. a month+ is too long for saving a few bucks. Hopefully meh will track problems and think about switching companies if your experience is the common one. Flash forward years later and we returned to New York for a weekend. Pitney Bowes offers different types of delivery services, which guarantee different delivery times. Before you do, make sure you add up all the extra monthly charges. Fishers, IN Im likely done until this crap is figured out. Im not from Florida but I want my opinion on Florida to be heard because I think Im super important. @elimanningface @sammydog01 point of view of the original poster; other people chimed in with After receiving multiple refurbished Pitney Bowes machines and countless calls, our company still does not have a . I want my packages to look like the trunks and suitcases in the old cartoons. @wineplus PB is a minimum cost shipper, and as such, I think they had minimum margins to absorb the recent issues. 9:23am ET My earbuds got lost in Texas, which kinda sucks because I needed them for work, but Im glad I didnt spring for the membership. Greenwood, IN College Park, GA Newgistics gave up displaying a delivery date because PB is already past the expected date. Ergo, some times, the shipping doesnt suck. I work there so I knew that was not correct. I posted yesterday in the IRK reveal thread about my IRK being stuck at a partner facility for the past 7 days. Were working on any solutions we can - both with them and on our own. This is the worst case Ive seen in my immediate family, but there were a bunch of other packages to multiple addresses delayed 3-5 days like this. I called Pitney Bowes trying to locate the package and they told me I have to contact Bath & Body Works to inquire about it. 1:18pm ET Let me check what laws govern these delay issues and possible get some more help from Federal Agency: We the consumers need some interactive communication about our weeks and months of package delays. @Cerridwyn @thewynner They key will be what happens after the contract ends. @mcc36 Pitney Bowes is the one that uploads the tracking, not meh. @RiotDemon And so many goobers ordering drones. I never minded the 7-10 days but 5 weeks for destroyed/missing, wait up to 2 weeks for CS reply, wait for refund and then still end up purchasing the item elsewhere 2 months down the road from original order date for more money because its something you wanted and didnt getits a recipe for business disaster. i miss mediocre. Arrived at Pitney Bowes Facility See reviews below to learn more or submit your own review. forums, and therefore these topics are not topics limited to only the Im not super frustrated at the speed of delivery, I just want to see progress and consistency. Might have you beat. Better not define shortly in a traditional way). Meanwhile, the remainder of my purchases from the last meh-rathon have been showing as Picked Up and Processed by Agent since June 30th. Who made you the forum King? Im also guessing meh packages dont get their own crates, so theyre probably crammed in there with packages from other businesses. It was inducted on the 13th, and had 5 scans on the 13th, 5 scans on the 15th, and single scans on the 17th, 20th, 21st and 22nd before being handed off to USPS. I work there, it did not actually arrive until the following Tuesday afternoon for delivery Wednesday. APR Recd most of my orders from Meh-a-thon, but 2 pkgs deld to my agent on May 28th, one arrived May 29th, and the other seems lost in space (ironically it is the trackers that are missing) and I have no idea who delivers for Pitney Bowes here, but not looking good for my little package and no one to contact. I was hoping I wasnt the only person dealing with this. I figured finally someone with great customer service, only I missed the call the following day and she closed the order stating I was unavailable and case was complete. @kevinrs @Noddy93 This is also frustrating me to no end. I was given a toll free number. If you dont share the opinion of countless individuals that have had to deal with Pitney Bowes and have no skin in the game, why even comment? @GBrunner321 @mike808 idk, Ive gotten plenty of things from ups earlier than expected. Oh, and I called the overseas company and they said they have no idea what the shipping partner is doing. @RiotDemon While they bought it in 2017, it is only fairly recently that they finally completely merged what newgistics was doing with how they do it to make one integrated system. I emailed 11 days ago and have heard nothing. Pandemic or not, they have seemingly always been a poor operation. @Barney @dave I go back to Woot and Ive been here a while, I just dont say anything very often. Delivered to Pitney Bowes Facility At least offer other shipping options. 2020 I dont really think you should eat 99 hamburgers We value your health. @mcc36 @speediedelivery Once websites are taking more than 30 days to get customers their products, if customers just take it, they lose options in case they never get their products like disputing charges. Things are beginning to move And more things will move once the pasta gets in me. On PB site its replaced everything but its arrival in California today, and on USPS there are just 3 lines: Carrolton May 18, Grapevine May 19, Departed Grapevine May 26. And to be very clear, I have no problem with Meh. I've been waiting for a package that's been sitting in Pitney Bowe's facility in Monroe NJ since December 3rd. I have said enough negative in here I need to highlight a positive shipping experience (shocking right?!) Fed Ex Ground, anticipate 5 days transit, arrived on 6th day. Im still waiting for my package that was shipped from china. May 15, 2020 Ive been hearing commercials saying the postal service might end residential delivery because of the pandemic. If its really just overload, too many packages in their system to keep up with, maybe Pitney Bowes should have started limiting how many packages they would take in, so some part of the people shipping stuff would go with another carrier. Because the shipper didnt pay for it, even if UPS already did it. That will make 40 days from order date to delivery to an address less than 20 miles from Meh HQ. @mike808 Im not sure why you had so many problems. 4:50am ET Tracking for First-Class flats and letters is provided through our partnership with Pitney Bowes, not through USPS. PITNEY BOWES is the the worst courier on earth. @smerk85 Im still waiting for the IRK I snagged on April 15th. Or at least should know better. Ha. @aardWolf oldest one 3 weeks? Im worried considering how beat up usual smoothly delivered IRK boxes often area month on that rough road and Ill be lucky if it still has 6 sides of the box, let alone tape. 4:22pm ET 28 The Tracking API allows you to track packages from origin until they are delivered at their final destination. Pitney Bowes brings USPS services to shippers with seamless, modern technology. My pasta is going to be completely dry by the time it reaches me at this rate. Picked Up And finally the current owners decided they wanted something new a few years back. @thewynner do you honestly think that we dont talk to the people that run meh? I thought they were only for packages. I am also having issues with Pitney bowes. 9:26pm ET You take a right and then a little later you take a left and youre here. I was going to cancel the subscription anyway. @Avrenim8 @therealjrn Thats only in families where his uncle is also his cousin just sayin. I thought pitney blows was in the time clock or typewriter business. @lichme If memory serves nothing has ever fully shipped USPS, they have always used a smartpost type setup. After, the issue is that it sits at some sorting facility for days before moving again. My package been sitting in Grapevine for almost 2 weeks now,its only 3 hours away. According to the tracking, my shirt spent 18 days waiting to be picked up, and it spent 6 days chilling in Indianapolis. 9:37pm ET Most products ship via the US Postal Service. Machine did not work again. That might explain a few things - the shipping delay is customs! 2020 I said I bought two and one will get an item and the other wont. Mine been sitting at their facility for more than 3 weeks now in between commerce CA and Grapevine TX. Individual packages are linked to the container number and when those numbers are scanned all the individual packages are updated. Im thinking the carriers listed as agents by PB are subcontractees like independent drivers and small businesses. Bunch of stuff I ordered is going nowhere fast. Waityour brother is your father? Arguing about the pros and cons using that shipping company is reasonable. I wonder if the pandemic made Pitney Bowes eliminate a third shift. I have been waiting patiently for 6 weeks now. IDK. GAINESVILLE, FLWhat the actual heck??? /image crap shoot. Thank you. Inducted into Pitney Bowes Network CA, COMMERCE, 90040-3416, Inducted into Pitney Bowes Network, 2020-07-15 17:09 If I am not mistaken, PayPal dumped Pitney Bowes at the same time that eBay picked them up. This is so disappointing. Spam @pitneybowers on Twitter. I wonder about the accuracy of tracking data too. @carl669 @narfcake Too bad the name isnt Pitney Bowes Systems. Now you see it has left and now it was delivered to FDR facility, ATLANTA, GA 30349 at 2:44pm what ever that place is. It was in the same spot in Cali for two weeks then has been in Texas these last 3 weekslike I don't understand how they are so slow. I would charge shipping partners. It sucks man especially when there is no update. Picked Up They arrange shipping by piggybacking on other orders. So this will be my last post on your forum. Should have arrived in 18 days, I have been waiting patiently for 6 weeks now. Ill just file a complaint with PayPal and try to get my money back. A discount, yes, but not cheap. My whole point was basically, if you dont have anything nice, dont say it all. In this case, if you dont have a problem with Pitney Bowes, thats completely fine, but why chime in just to say that others are stupid for being disappointed with their service? 2:53pm ET According to PB lost/damaged but undeliverable. @smigit2002 Ooh, data! The Reprint Shipment API allows you to reprint labels in case they are misplaced or damaged. Not sure how that could ever have been considered accurate! Ill tell you what happened! That $150 speaker Meh.com had listed today looked interesting. Greenwood, IN Id like to add I ordered this package on the 1st of March. This is worse than the stupid SmartPost crap that woot sent BOCs through. The suspense is (not) killing me. Now each day its been delayed to the next, but at least it seems to be going in the right direction. Ill usually reply to them. I have had 1 order refunded and my second order has been stuck for a week. Youre right about Pitney Bowes. Honestly, im moving more and more towards cancelling membership before it renews mainly because of this. i have been waiting 3 weeks for a product that i ordered. June 29th back to USPS Delivery unit and Delivery! Is it a different tracking number from the one on Meh and on USPS? For example, could you activate, then box and ship, a radio transponder which you could then track in real time and compare your tracking to the tracking data? Oof. I was just trying to find some information on Pitney Bowes. Departed Pitney Bowes Facility This is NOT the case at the counter at the Post Office. Day one-needed help on getting the print stamps tab on SendPro C and after over an hour on hold they hung up on me. Would you go to a thread titled Thread for People from Florida and comment, This is so stupid. That, in my mind, would be instantly changed to Pure Bull Shit. That feels like a few days ago almost. Actually the paradox seems to have resolved, the March tracking has disappeared, and its arrived at the post office about half an hour ago. Companies displayed may pay us to be Authorized or when you click a link, call a number or fill a form on our site. Thank the lord and lady, Maybe someone in the know ( @snapster ) can come speak of this issue. OK, just saying, finally got all of my mehathon orders, but weirdly deleted weird destinations, and showing shipments not moving for days in some locations and then moving within minutes to improbable locations and moving into my small town and then out of state, so, again, just saying, is this really accurate tracking? May 21, 2020 Cause Caching is not enabled. Service 73 Value 62 How long do you have to wait? I wonder if Meh has asked PB to update our orders or if just a coincidence Mine all got an updated that they arrived at College Park, GA. Of course they were delivered to College Park Ga a week ago. June 22nd (20 days from TX to CA) was Picked by agent See all photos. Fuck Pitney Bowes. See quotes from top insurers on Simply Business. Theyre our customer, not you. Box arrived in perfect shape. I dont think ill order again till meh changes partners or i read on these forums that the problems are fixed. I didnt get a delivery confirmation email from meh until the next day though - thats unusual. @bruceb28 They wont return it. May 22, 2020 That stage took almost 36 hours. Pitney Bowes is the worst shipping company on earth. @kevinrs But I still remember the first time (incl when and where) I tasted proper onion soup: @MarkDaSpark @smerk85 Hey, if you believe the tracking I think Ive got everyone beat with the post just below. Rather, like some people, when posting, might treat some specific comments. In my opinion that is inappropriate. I probably like Meh a little too much. @admiralpoopants @OnionSoup @Raider @Barney @Ignorant @narfcake @RiotDemon @sammydog01 speak of the echo chamber. Came on here today expecting to find a thread about this. A package shipped from in the same county, and was ordered the 29th, said delivery the 30th. 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