Loving mother and mother-in-law of Michael Whitla and the . Its great that these things are finally brought out in the open and that the myth of the infallible, adorable guru is pierced. Im sorry that you, and other women had to go through all of this and that I was so close to you and didnt know nor did I feel what was going on in you. Thats what they said. And it had started with the strange realization that everybody that I knew who had professionalized into the yoga world or who was a really dedicated student was injured in some way. Copyright Chintamani 2015-2021. I dont want to interrupt. There were some people who were suffering from chronic pain or from repetitive stress injuries. Karen Rain, formerly Haberman, was one of six students in a very early-days video of Pattabhi Jois directing them through the Primary series, that I had watched repeatedly on mute. My knees were really saved by a senior teacher who came around to me and said, Do not go back into that room! But the thing is, is that administratively we have this sense that while hes been excised, somehow hes been amputated and, you know, were all fine now. Free shipping for many products! Whats more obvious here is that this guys sexually assaulting women. Thank you, Karen Rain, and Gregor Maehle. Lived In Amherst MA, Mill Valley CA. She enjoys dancing, going for walks in the woods with her three cats and playing games with friends. Well this is interesting. This is all the language that surrounds the sexuality of yoga that I believe begins to soften a person up into not really going, Wait a minute! We have 24 records for Karen Haberman ranging in age from 39 years old to 79 years old. 4 Ditonton. And thats it, right? Like hes doing an amazing amount of public vulnerable, accountability work. Its more like Indian anti-colonial activists in the 1920s and 1930s wanted to indigenize physical culture influences from Europe. Resides in Huntington, MA. Karen L Haberman View Antarctic krill (Euphausia superba) is a keystone species in the Antarctic pelagic ecosystem (Everson 2000;Knox 2007;Trathan and Hill 2016) and also supports a major fishery . Again, I am really sorry that all of this happened and that it damaged you and other women so much. You may unsubscribe at any time. At this point, after having read in the wake of MeToo so many accounts of sexual abuse by women conducted by men, I feel an almost primal shame of being male. Nobody shared it. And isnt that where so much strength lies? And then that second layer of isolation leads to a kind of internal isolation from your own moral sense, where its like you had values that helped you navigate the world. Transcript is below. So its a young group, I think about five, and one of them isnt a teacher, I think her name is Emma. Love scar [ Flower Rain] EP.1a #Jerry Yan, Karen Mok. Get started U.S. Yearbooks Name Index, 1890-1979. So on one hand, yeah, on one hand the bad apple argument just doesnt work because nobody assaults Jubilee Cooke estimates that theres 30,000 her conservative estimate is that theres 30,000 distinct episodes of abuse or assault . I try to lay out a number of tools that I think Im not an expert in this but I think will be helpful as teachers, students and administrators and yoga service providers and yoga academics as well go forward in figuring out how to identify toxic group dynamics. You know, theres one comment saying, You know lot of people are going to say youre a very brave person sometime in the future. Fast forward six years later, she republishes her blog. 0 Ditonton. Karen Eastland Master of Letters, BA 2017, MLitt 2019, member of the Golden Key Asia Pacific Honour Society 2020 The deception is the threshold. Based on facts, either observed and verified firsthand by the reporter, or reported and verified from knowledgeable sources. Get Notified when Karen Rain's info changes. Until that has been done and apologies have been made a call to boycott the Jois shalas in Mysore is only fair. I feel like I know her a lot better than I know him, but I still wouldnt presume to know why she makes choices that she does. Support from people like you makes this happen.This conversa. Karen Rain is a writer, tutor and nature lover. I thought that that part in the book was great. That did not happen. I mean it didnt have to be me. . Thats not a bad apple. So talk about that: the sexual objectification, with Jois. Karen Haberman was born circa 1958. Theres no question anymore that were in allegation territory. And I believe that if, if in some cases, if those portraits on those altars are looked at from just the right angle, the person might go, Oh my God, actually hes not who I thought I was, who he was after all. Yoga. Well, every group does say that though. Just briefly take me through the math on that. But if youre running a public space, and people who are sexual assault survivors are going to it and they can Google Pattabhi Joiss name and that story is the first thing that comes up how are they going to feel safe and how were they going to feel as though youre not somehow excusing or aiding and abetting or minimizing or just not caring about sexual assault. The evidence was clear. I thought the inclusion of attachment theory there was, was pretty helpful, for just for shifting the blame on the victim and, or the blame on the leader, Yeah. Lets stop projecting our power on gurus and lets cease worshipping people who insist on passing on knowledge and especially sacred knowledge in vertical relationships. You know, its so common within the modern yoga world, and this is why I think Singletons book was so riveting and so outrageous to many people. We know that Karen M. (Haberman) Golson had been residing in Texas . I shared my knee problem with Sharath Jois (then R. Sharath) and asked to be adjusted gently or not at all. Thats, thats mixed. Theres also 16 women who said He assaulted me, and this is how he did it. One is enough. What psychiatrists came up with in the 1950s where they self imposed theyre starting to break it with Trump now but a lot of professional clinicians, have this self-imposed rule that theyre not going to diagnose people that theyre not in clinical practice with. But we dont have any evidence that physical adjustments in yoga existed prior to the 1920s. So you know, I appreciate your confession. Select a record to see additional public records data. Karen Rain (Haberman), Richard Freeman, Tim Miller, Pattabhi Jois, Chuck Miller, Eddie Stern, Maty Ezraty. Now thats new. But I remember at some point I performed a twist, while KP Jois adjusted the girl next to me in drop backs. Karen Rain, 56. (Page 2) And just to jump on that for a second around the nature of the adjustments, because weve discussed how theres a component of sexual assault in them, but the physical assault too the stories of people just hearing ligaments snap or rip. There is also, as you mentioned, a scope of practice for the yoga humanities that I think would be a good idea. And this is Meaning of Life TV. Bless you. You know, theyre attached to money. But look, its been great. Karen E Haberman Indio, age 58, female. City of Lethbridge, Alberta. Dear sister and sister-in-law of Susan and Stuart Kampel. And one of the things that she says this creates is this amazing I say its amazing, its awful, but its amazing to me because it articulates my own cult experience so well she describes a triple isolation in which youre isolated from the outside world. And so in that ongoing story, which is still unfolding, we have this sense administratively within IYNAUS that you know, hes been delisted, hes been decertified and the Iyengar family has removed his right in light of these crimes, which cant be prosecuted theyre all outside of the statute of limitations but in light of these behaviors, hes been prevented from using the Iyengar trademark in his teaching going forward. Theyre following a series of postures that theyve been given in a successive stage-like manner. Touched a lot by the common ground dealing with this allegations and reinterpretation of behaviour that still continues in my own world of trying to educate people to escape the Buddhist flavoured abusive high demand groups. In the last 24 hours I have hear from several sides that the video showing KP Jois sexually assaulting and adjusting violently students has been taken down several times by petitions of Jois followers. Previously, I was a postdoctoral fellow in the Laboratoire Jacques-Louis Lions at Sorbonne Universit with Prof Ugo Boscain and a member of the Inria Paris team CAGE. Woops.]. And there havent been, to my satisfaction, statements of distancing and denouncing and separation and all that. He pretty much stayed out of the way. I never really pursued Ashtanga yoga myself. And in Yoga at large, I know yoga is kind of like the wild, wild west of, industries. I also want to thank and acknowledge Anneke Lucas who apparently was the whistle blower on this affair. You know, I know you hold that intention in the book of, of offering some sort of roadmap forward with better practices. Im like, this is not what hes doing. Now it also implies that the knowledge thats being transferred goes way back in history and has been tested by time. Its almost as if the portrait will stay on the altar to preserve something that if it cracks will crack the entire world along with it. I think Ill spew if I hear those sentences once more. Rainfall totals from July 1 through March 1, along with average yearly rainfall: Arroyo Grande - 24.33 inches to date - average 14.09 inches. In the coming weeks Sharath almost daily mounted me in Baddha Konasana by standing on both my knees with his full body weight. Hopemissema. So its been a combination of forms of evidence that, I think have moved it out of allegation territory, but more importantly, out of the territory of interpretation where the leader who has perpetrated crimes is somehow beyond the realm of the normal citizen who can be evaluated according to the same standards of evidences as anybody else. According to her family tree, she married Jimmy D. Golson on July 6, 1987 in Texas . Its really the beauty and the artistry and I would say the sensuality and the sublimated sexuality of and sometimes not-sublimated sexuality of that imagery that is directly coming from Jois. On file we have 9 email addresses and 9 phone numbers associated with Karen in area codes such as 818, 858, 619, 541, 909, and 2 other area codes. Read writing from Karen Rain on Medium. Whats judgmental or perhaps the better word is just inept, is to continue to keep your head in the sand about what the person that you love did to people. What did we overlook? What all of the 16 women who gave their testimony for my book I describe is that you know, they werent people to him. The fellowship was funded by the FSMP . Or kind of like a trickle down effect into the next generation with regard to how we regard the body and effort and pain in general. And it worked. So I hope those are helpful ideas. Um, no. So I want to dive into that. 5 out of 5 stars (21,334) $ 9.99. I was trying through the night to remember how close your mat must have been to mine. When I spun around I saw what looked to me like him grabbing her buttocks and rubbing himself against her while he stood between her legs and she was back arching. I just want to totally surrender to a person that fixes all my problems in return. People argued about that for years. Thank you for helping to free yoga from the clutches of patriarchy and misogyny. People who have that response really have to get educated in what it means to be in a toxic power dynamic, that confuses your basic capacity to feel as though you have agency. Thanks for your response, Katchie Ananda. Well, they mightve been traditional in the sense that thats what Krishnamacharya did to him. But part of the story that started building up around him was that this is what he was doing was that he wasnt digitally raping that woman, he was helping her find her mulabandha, which is a term for an internal muscular, but also esoteric, sensation that is tied to the rise of Kundalini or esoteric energy. Make a life-giving gesture He would burst into tears at one point. And part of the story that started to accrue around what Jois was doing as he was sexually assaulting women and possibly men too, thats not verified by first person testimony though. And you also from there, you then expand into an analysis of sort of structural, systemic conditions that do kind of disorient and confuse and create this kind of vertiginous internal phenomenology for the person that makes it very difficult to see one way or the other. Dr Karen Habermann. The network of complicity. Theres part of this invocation of tradition that also shielded Pattabhi Jois from scrutiny because one of the things that his students would say, and they say it to this day actually, is that his adjustments, as brutal as they were, as injurious and as intrusive as they were, were traditional. But, you know, I think people who are in different financial circumstances might find it more effective to preserve the relationship with their Ashtanga Yoga shala hosts than to separate altogether and to slowly encourage them to change. They shouldnt because it sounds like a really good thing. click this webpage of CocoFinder with 9 records related in 6 states. And how did that lead to abuse both physical and sexual under, under him in his classes, and describe what that dynamic looked like. That doesnt work anymore (did it ever?). Oh, okay. Where did she disappear to?" She got so far away from the Ashtanga scene in the yoga world in general, she changed her name and it's like nobody wanted to ask a little bit further? How can I make this up to her? Did you get into this in your book about the, like Mark Singletons work looking at the origin of modern postural yoga of which Joiss system comes as part of? And this really goes back to a very old and sacred idea in a part of Indian wisdom culture called Tantrism where the guru is said to embody a kind of bio-spiritual grace. He goes on to further his studies, later on in his life with Mr. Krishnamacharya and assumed a teaching position at the Mysore Yoga Shala sometime in the late Thirties. I think Matthews book has gone beyond the final draft state but he may still record further cases if you are interested. So when we go to Instagram and we look at yoga images right now were looking at least part of a legacy of people really having to perform under the male gaze in more ways than one. Reflecting back now on Mysuru (new de-colonialized name for Mysore) it was a classic example of The Emperor and His New Clothes. Lets not pretend youre a marriage counsellor. Somehow, I thought the guru knows better and knows my body better than I (where did I get that idea from?) Its very, very difficult to protect yourself against being deceived. It was inspiring. I have friends who Ive tried to talking about your work with both here and in Europe and there has been this view that youre, this opportunist, youre your swooping in on this thing just to elevate your own work and your own, your own profile, and Ive always gone cross-eyed when thats come up. BKSs gruffness, his shouting, his way of both electrifying and terrifying a room at the same time. David D Rain, Dianne D Rain, and two other persons spent some time in this place. On 03/21/2018 KAREN SHARON HABERMAN filed a Personal Injury - Motor Vehicle court case against MICHAEL LEIDNER in Los . Recently, Karen and LaRhonda Steele have founded the duo "The Spirit of Freedom" which showcases the songs of the Civil Rights Movement and their relevance to then and now. Addresses. We dont know whats going on. Its mostly a kind of clever elaboration or . Atascadero - 22.85 inches to date - average 12 . And you know, she laid out this five point, this is how my participation in this organization is complicit with this abuse history and here are the five things that Im going to do now in my classes to make sure that I dont carry any of those impacts on. There has been a couple of other statements like that, but hers is a real standout. And so I think its very confusing. And theyre not following a led series of instructions from the teacher. and I kept coming back for more. There were people who would say that. Yes. If you dont take responsibility for your body, you will end up in a wheelchair! There was somehow an implied knowledge of that but nobody spoke out. I think she uses, no, I dont think she uses my research to try to figure out how many women he actually came into contact with when hes away from the Mysore shala on world tour, you know, in California or New York or Boston or whatever, or Hawaii. And how can we help you learn some more? whether for the first time By that point, I'm talking to Karen Rain for two years. And as far as like being judgmental goes, I mean, well, asking for basic justice and respect isnt judgmental. And so I just was terrified of the implications of what I was hearing and I resisted it for a long time actually. But what we have is something that pretends to have a stronger linkage to the medieval history of Hatha Yoga than it actually does. So theres something in there called the PRISM method. Karen Haberman 1958 Karen Haberman, born Circa 1958. TM, who is the one testimony giver who wanted to remain anonymous described feeling as though she was just a piece of ass who was there for him to hump her or to give him pleasure in some way. How is the community both within Ashtanga and th yoga community outside of Ashtanga receiving this? Yes, this seems to be a common story. Court records for this case are available from Stanley Mosk Courthouse. Please let us know if you agree to functional, advertising and performance cookies. Karen Haberman Entrepreneur and Internet Visionary Hawthorne, New Jersey, United States. And apparently he would stop from time to time, but like somebody who had clearly an illness, he wasnt able to stop for very long. Thats a whole orchard. (courtesy of Karen Rain) Jois died in . By that point, Im talking to Karen Rain for two years. But anyway, their list of the things that you can do is all laid out for you. What has been some of the response youve received or seen in light of the stuff coming out and also in light of your book. And that hes doing it for his own gratification and that theres no therapeutic benefit to this. I am a Harrison Early Career Assistant Professor in the Department of Statistics at the University of Warwick. Today, Kara talks to Trae' Stephens, the co-founder and Executive Chairman of Anduril, about how the growing defense tech industry is using the power of AI and the speed of Silicon Valley to challenge "beltway bandits" like Lockheed Martin and Raytheon. Right. Theyre supposed to be concentrating on their breath or theres even eye positions that people are supposed to take. And he created a victim-centered narrative. If you are deceived about why you are in a place, about what is going to offer you, then youve really already had your agency taken away. I am concerned that the wool is still being pulled over the eyes of young, unsuspecting people. Because I think thats essential. (Karen Haberman) 50s Huntington, MA Monitor. Im deeply and truthfully sorry. What we need here is a Truth and Reconciliation process and it needs to start with the truth. And I found it very weird for a so-called therapeutic practice that people came to for spiritual benefit, but they also seem to be working themselves really hard in. Scope of practice or defining a scope of practice for a yoga teacher is a keystone of that effort. Matthew Remski writes and presents on yoga and ayurveda in the shadows of capitalism and climate change. And if shes to blame for believing that, well, you know, lets have another conversation about what people actually end up believing. He had been trained in the Mysore Yoga Shala at a very crucial point in the development of modern yoga history. And, and, you know, its like, did you, did anybody say that, Ronan Farrow was opportunistic for reporting on Harvey Weinstein? And also so earth shattering is that you know he doesnt phrase it this way but the research as he lays it out basically says what we have believed about the modern posture, about the modern yoga movement is mostly deceptive. And so from this one gym which was set up by the Maharaja Wodiyar in 1934, we have two of the pillars of the modern yoga evangelical movement. So as a cultural critic, as Ive reported on various abuse stories, the Anusara implosion, the Jivamukti lawsuit, the Satyananda Yoga thing, Shambhala, Rigpa As Ive done that work, Ive made a lot of allies and Ive made a lot of enemies. Is it about the fact that your voice froze when you wanted to say No? Even just recently Sharath has accepted the title parama guru, claiming the fact that he is the only true representative of an ancient lineage and the only person to authorize teachers, etc. I realized then that I was a member of a cult. When you look on Instagram today at #yoga you will see images that really had their birthplace in terms of their sensuality their, their structure, the whole aesthetic really comes out of the Jois movement. Karen Haberman Work Experience and Education . I dont think that has really gotten off the ground yet. To Look for relevant info about Karen Haberman, such as Karen Haberman phone number & address. This conversation covers topics like sexual abuse that might be sensitive to some . Well, heres somebody who had such teacherly influence for such a long time and such administrative influence over the entire organization for such a long time. I know that the group will have some challenges with diversity with inclusion and also. The book that started to emerge out of that research project was originally called Shadow Pose, and the project name was What Are We Actually Doing in Asana? Current employment is stated as Clerical/White Collar. Thank you for believing me now, for understanding that sexual, spiritual and institutional abuse are complex and for not shaming me for not recognizing what was happening to me at the time. Questioning the guru was certainly considered theory. And that it was going to stand in the way of her spiritual development or something like that. Its opportunist in a sense that nobody was doing it for one thing. On file we have 38 email addresses and 35 phone numbers associated with Karen in area codes such as 256, 608, 541, 970, 909, and 13 other area codes. I dont think we have a clear idea of what the commitments, the social and economic and relational commitments, there are or were or were supposed to have existed between teachers and students that might ground all of this stuff. I am not writing that with any resentment. The fellowship was funded by the FSMP (Fondation Sciences . As all these things are being revealed the cult-like, fundamentalist tendencies in Ashtanga Yoga have only increased. And I think theres something in there too around the connection between the yoga posture and a kind of sexualized performance. March 14, 2012. 2005-2020. And I still have Shadow Pose as kind of like a book structure. I would say that they probably have to do a better job of making sure that theyre professionally consulting with survivors like Karen Rain and Anneke Lucas and Jubilee Cooke. I mean, thats just, thats basic adulting for one thing. Who did we not listen to? Did you know that the Mindful Strength Podcast made the Top 20 Biomechanics Blogs for 2019 list? Filter by age or state to narrow your search to find the person you are . . So, you know, those are individual choices for sure. chad. And I think its had a huge ripple effect. And you could meditate your way into believing that there was perhaps, but most people are not actually having that experience and we shouldnt be telling them that they should. Without him, theres no adjustment protocol. As Im listening to you, Im imagining the listener that may not be familiar with the Mysore style of practice. I think an apology should be issued by the Jois family for sexual assault and violating adjustments. Now here I am talking about providing a safe space where you can heal but I have to actually thank you for providing a safe space to me where I can come out. I hope that people are able to begin to look at the communities that they live in a little bit more critically, to look at the kind of leadership that they have a little bit more critically and start modelling that critical thinking. Please email at least a day beforehand to book a time slot. And its something that Yoga Alliance may adopt in part, not because I wrote it or anything, but because its in the air now theyre doing a renovation of their standards after 19 years. Where did Karen Haberman go? After years of healing my knees came good and I have a well-going daily Ashtanga practice 20 years on. I think we have to then wonder what it means for his senior students and how they present asana or yoga practice to the world now. I talked to her about the process of projection, about idealizing a person, about giving up ones power, hypnotizing oneself into beliefs and finally about taking self-responsibility. The birth date was listed as January 1, 1948. This journal arises as an outcome of the Centre for He would come behind women and digitally rape them by actually pressing his fingers through their tights and into their genitals. 9:53. And at a certain point I realized that the injury question in the Ashtanga world, which is profound, its, it goes deep was still a surface question to the abuse issue that had been silent for many, many years, but also carried by a number of women survivors in a kind of whisper network as well. Also known as Karen H Haberman, K Rain. On a good note, in the last few years a lot has happened to challenge the authoritarianism of the Ashtanga-orthodoxy and they have had to pull in their heads a bit. Thank you to Josh Summers for interviewing me about Practice and All is Coming. View the profiles of people named Karen Haberman. He was given kind of free reign to pontificate about every aspect of a persons life, you know, so its not just that he was teaching people asana, but he was also telling them to stop taking their medication or he was telling them that their back didnt need surgery or, you know, he was giving them spiritual advice perhaps or, or what have you. Thats what they said. Prior to that, I was a Hausdorff Postdoc at the Hausdorff Center for MathematicsLink opens in a new window at the University of Bonn and a member of Prof Karl-Theodor SturmLink opens in a new windows group on Stochastic and Geometric Analysis at the Institute for Applied MathematicsLink opens in a new window. He is the author of eight books of poetry, fiction, and non-fiction including Threads of Yoga: A Remix of Patanjalis Sutras. Youd have to make some personal choices around whether youre using that privilege, the fees that youre getting from the training to push back against that idealization. Shiva Details: Visitors are welcome to return to the residence Sunday after the conclusion of the burial at the cemetery, and visitation will continue from 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. Shiva visits Monday and Tuesday from 2:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. and 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. Evening services will be held daily at 7:00 p.m. Id even say his own fans arent responsible for him deceiving them! Why shouldnt the intimacy of their, you know, their deepest selves be somehow exposed? In awe of your courage and integrity. Like if youve trained as an asana, a teacher, lets stay in our lane: lets not give dietary advice. But Jois is the person who puts postures into rigorous sequences and really gives the modern group class its fluid and intense feeling, going forward. Hopemissema. But at the same time, I dont think I wouldve gotten the book contract without that. Amongst the people who do, this is a difficult book to read and some people have really negative reactions to it. Every day, Karen Rain and thousands of other voices read, write, and share important stories on Medium. Its not like youre going to give it. Like what, what responsibility are we actually talking about and can that discussion survive the fact that one of the reasons that Karen Rain was assaulted over and over again was because the group had deceived her about what was going on? Like he was, he was a bad man. Thats like a bad apple and a whole bunch of people saying, No, this is great. I left Mysuru shortly thereafter and never went back to practice in the Jois shala. One is that its hard to say, how pre-colonial, especially Indian wisdom tradition metaphysics play any kind of role in this at all because I dont think global yoga practitioners have access really to those metaphysics. I totally agree with you, Karen, that sexual abuse is not about sex. I dont think so. So once I started getting more and more attuned to the fact that that was an underlying story that Mr. Jois had actually assaulted women throughout his career, and nobody had really published on it, I realized that I couldnt just put that into a chapter somehow.